From the Narcissistic Parents subreddit we have Have you ever secretly recorded narcissist abuse to show others?:
Hi,
My mum is a covert narcissist - but no one besides her sister and my brother who sees something is wrong will believe the extent of her horribleness behind closed doors. She is an absolute angel who uses a soft voice and a vulnerable and loving persona outside to friends... but is a raging bull with no boundaries to my behind closed doors.
I've raised it with a few friends and they say it sounds horrible but kind of brush it off like - aww yeah that sounds bad, why would she do that? and even the questioning pisses me off. They cannot understand - I havent told my brother that I believe she is a Cnarc yet but I will - its just that he loves her dearly, sees she has major mental health issues but I doubt he would fully agree she is a CNarc because she treats him sooo differently.
I want to record her rages, and her absolutely aweful use of language towards me, the mocking and shouting and baseless attacks and let them listen to it and be like: HERE YOU GO! I bet you've never heard this tone of voice, and use of worwds before?!
It's not uncommon for a narc parent to treat all of their kids differently. In Egg's case the way she treats Rob is different from how she treats Michael and how she treats both of them is different from how I get treated. We all had distinctly different upbringings. So I'm not surprised your brother sees her different than you do. That's how this operates.
Now I did record Egg (as everyone here knows) but it wasn't to show her off to other people, it was a measure I had to take for myself to hold her accountable and stop the gaslighting. You can't gaslight me into thinking that you didn't say this when I have the literal audio of you saying that very thing in my hand. But they try to! She tried that bullshit with Aleks a few times and he would quote the line she said verbatim and get a "well anyway" from her as if we can just sweep that bit of verbal abuse under the rug. I wasn't doing it as an exercise in showing Rob or anyone else "oh look at this woman!"
Did I quote bits of the transcripts in places? Yeah, I did.
Did she deny it? Absolutely, as I knew she would. You don't get the truth from narcs and if you do there's a reason behind it.
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This is quite detailed
THANK YOU sometimes you have to think like a literal terrorist lmao
Who came up with the idea to start recording her?
That was Aleks, who started with a free (with a paid option available, which we sprang for for cloud storage and syncing) phone app and then decided we needed an upgrade. After the events of March 2nd and her going off a few days later, Aleks felt it would be best if we started phone recordings. So both Serena and us did that.
Who came up with the idea to hide it?
Oh it was always hidden. Serena would put her phone out in the hall pointed at her so it would (hopefully) record her saying shit. Which it would, because Egg has one volume: loud. (The TV would sometimes be louder.) Once we got the recorder it was Aleks who suggested hiding it on the stairs "in plain sight" (for once my clutter came in handy) and then later on after we nearly got caught putting the recorder back into place, Aleks moved it closer to the stair landing inside a shoe so it was easier to grab when it came time to empty the SD card. We had it connected to a USB extension cord plugged into a wall adapter plugged into an outlet in the back room.so we didn't have to worry about it losing power at the worst possible moment. The cord was also hidden.in plain sight (we left it there but took the recorders).
I should state that there were areas of the house that the recorder couldn't hear, like if you went into the kitchen (and didn't stay by the doorway) because the TV was at blaringly loud volume... So we would have our phone recording to make sure that we covered all of our bases.
This is some black ops shit.
I mean...if you are familiar with Aleks' source, that probs comes as no surprise lmao Sometimes you need to set up your own bugs, you know? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯